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Plurk Not Growing? Why?

I am a bit of a Compete.com junky. I always check to see how much traffic sites get. In fact I have the toolbar installed on almost every PC that I use. Sometime today the Compete.com traffic scores updated and sadly Plurk’s went down.

Plurk’s has gone down 19% according to this metric to ~256,000. Compete is by no means accurate but it’s an indication of trends. Why is Plurk losing people?

I think plurk is continuing to decline for several reasons. Here they are:

1) Plurk is totally original but it’s main page screams generic.
2) The main page has no video on how / why to use this radically new network.
3) Where is the promotion? I have not seen / heard ANYTHING about Plurk … Anywhere.
4) Karma is a B!tch. I’ve noticed most of the Social Media Influencer’s have stopped using Plurk.
5) The Private messages are awesome but lame; no notification AT ALL. That can kill a relationship

There are more but this is enough of a rant for now. Basically I think Plurk needs to get more out there. Have the guys attended any shows? Have they done anything besides ” build it and they will come”? I hope this doesn’t come off as negative. I really do like plurk but if you’re a social media type you have to go where PEOPLE ARE. Where you will constantly meet NEW PEOPLE. I’m not seeing that on plurk. It had a HUGE SURGE in the beginning of Summer 08. In June a few influential Twitter users mentioned plurk and many people moved over. Since then I think the majority have moved back to Twitter.

There are many factors which could explain this but I think it all boils down to Karma being a massive turn off. Does Plurk want a handful of people living on the site or millions of people using the site at their leisure? The admins should think where the service is going and who they want to use it.

It would be a crying shame if Plurk just drifted into the “Gave Twitter a run but got forgotten” category. NOW is the time to do something. So what do you think about Karma?

65 Responses to “Plurk Not Growing? Why?”

  1. Skitzzo on January 8th, 2009 | 2:29 pm

    Plurk’s interface is the reason I don’t use it. It’s backwards and counter intuitive for me. Twitter is so much easier and natural to navigate and use.

  2. Madame Maracas on January 8th, 2009 | 2:30 pm

    Karma is useless in that it’s just a toy to get more emotes, otherwise I don’t see it having a real purpose. Oh right, makes folks crazy to post regularly, whether or not they have something useful to say.

    Once I realized I could import emotes from elsewhere to “say” what I wanted, I stopped really worrying about Karma other than as a numerical amusement factor. I enjoy conversations, threaded and followable, that is why I stay on Plurk. I follow a lot of the same folks on Twitter as well but I’m able to interact with them, catch up on conversations/threads when I’m away and able to contribute at my leisure vs. being tethered to the Twitter page 24/7 in order to post relevantly.

    The “broadcasters” of Twitter, the “big guns” of social media have left plurk mostly I think because they’re on a much more level playing field here. They don’t get the blind following/fawning effect that Twitter affords them. Here they need to not only post, but RESPOND to others in order to be relevant, karmically upwardly mobile & recognized. Its not what they’re “here” for, so they leave.

    That’s ok. I’ll stick to folks that actually read what I post, comment on it just as I do their threads. I’d rather have give and take than me be someone’s silent, distant, rarely interacted with audience. I’m funny that way.

  3. Thorsten Matzner on January 8th, 2009 | 2:31 pm

    Plurk is too time consuming w/ the web interface. We need a Twitter-like interface or Tweetdeck-like app for it. I never thought that I would write this b/c I was impressed about Plurks design and idea. But clicking my way on the site is too lame on the long run.

  4. Bloggeries on January 8th, 2009 | 2:35 pm

    Once you figure out the Plurk interface it’s actually A LOT easier to maintain numerous conversations and many friends.

    I really do like twitter for it’s simplicity but am not impressed with how difficult it is to converse with people. Some people use / advocate using Twitter like a chat and I think they are just as wrong as the people who strictly Broadcast.

    It’s a happy medium if you @reply everyone you’ll flood your friends streams and annoy them. With PLURK you keep EVERYTHING related to a thread IN A THREAD and you can meet new users in a thread of a common friend. It’s great.

    Why they attached this juvenile Karma I don’t know. I just think it’s LAME and have said this repeatedly and now seeing the numbers drop again it’s too bad.

  5. IThinkNot on January 8th, 2009 | 2:36 pm

    First of all, your poll question isn’t asking the right thing. Sure its useless, but I don’t think its a turnoff either and your probably going to use the votes to determine that karma is bad. Useless isn’t equal to bad.

    Now if you want to know why Plurk isn’t growing and I think its two things.

    1. Lack of promotion. Plurk grew quickly because it came out because of Twitter’s load problems and it was an attempt to build a better mousetrap. However, twitter fixed its problems so the “I hate twitter” crowd isn’t as bit as it was.

    2. Lack of “Clients”. Very few people use Twitter via the Web. AIR clients, mobile clients like TwitterBerry make twitter more usable than a web page that you have to refresh periodically. Twitter has made its data very available for other uses, like are you hot or cold. What is your twitter grade? Those sites and the clients help #1 promotion.

    So if you don’t know about plurk, your not going to every learn about plurk and when you do, your left with a very cleaver, but somewhat cumbersome web interface.

  6. Mike Wilton on January 8th, 2009 | 2:36 pm

    I don’t think karma is a total turn off, it’s at least something that inspires many users to be active and the perks for the various karma points are fun. Unfortunately I think that it drops much too quickly. Tamar Weinberg brought up this concern when her karma tanked over various holidays. My resolution, which I have mentioned in various places in the past is to slow down the karma drop. If you’re gone more than a week without tweeting then start the karma drop. I think that makes more sense than dropping on a daily basis.

    Mike Wilton’s last blog post..Internet Marketing and Vampires, I’m Not The Only One!

  7. Adam Snider on January 8th, 2009 | 2:37 pm

    While I think that Karma is a useless “feature” in Plurk, like Skitzzo, the interface is what keeps me from using it. I can’t stand the interface: it’s not intuitive, and as nice as threaded conversations are in theory, in practice, they don’t really work in a Plurk/Twitter-like service.

    Adam Snider’s last blog post..Introducing Exploring the Spirit

  8. Bloggeries on January 8th, 2009 | 2:38 pm

    Re Interface: How would you like to see it improved?

  9. Bloggeries on January 8th, 2009 | 2:39 pm

    @IthinkNot Thanks for replying and yeah now that I think of it “Good or Bad” could of been a better way of asking the question. Some people love useless stuff :D

  10. Renee Lemley on January 8th, 2009 | 2:41 pm

    I think Plurk has hijacked the term “Karma” and THAT is bad Karma.
    I’ll worry about my own Karma, thank you very much.
    I think plurk is missing the point.

    Renee Lemley’s last blog post..The Perfect Social Media Trifecta: Have you found yours?

  11. Bloggeries on January 8th, 2009 | 2:43 pm

    @Madame you raise some great points. On Twitter you don’t expect a reply where as in Plurk due to the threads you expect replies. If someone starts plurk’s with replies and doesn’t respond people will know and it not participate again likely. Not so on Twitter

    @Renee That’s a new take on it for sure. :D

  12. Adam Snider on January 8th, 2009 | 2:43 pm

    As far as the interface goes, I’d prefer to see something closer to the Twitter interface. Of course, in that case, why not just use Twitter? Plurk’s interface is both it’s biggest problem (in that many people find it awkward) and it’s biggest advantage (in that it is what truly sets it apart from all the other microblogging platforms it’s competing against).

    Adam Snider’s last blog post..Introducing Exploring the Spirit

  13. Lidia-Anain on January 8th, 2009 | 2:44 pm

    I think that MadameMaracas hit the nail on the head. I agree with everything she says 100%!!! I really think plurk is for real people and not those social media “big guns”! I do think that plurk could be used to connect with your target audience IF you are willing to make the effort to connect with them and listen not just talk.

    I have tried to get many of my real friends on plurk bringing them over from myspace or facebook. I would much rather have them on my plurk timeline than having to search through myspace or facebook. Plurk could become much bigger if people knew about it and knew how to use it.

    I wish I knew the silver bullet of how to get my friends and family off of myspace and facebook and over to plurk!

  14. Bloggeries on January 8th, 2009 | 2:45 pm

    @Adam Maybe if they put a video tutorial on the front page explaining benefits of the system and HOW to use it… Twitter is brain dead easy and I think that is part of the appeal.

    Also Should of Put Poll above the fold; doh!

  15. Olivia Bell on January 8th, 2009 | 2:47 pm

    “I really do like twitter for it’s simplicity but am not impressed with how difficult it is to converse with people. Some people use / advocate using Twitter like a chat and I think they are just as wrong as the people who strictly Broadcast.”

    Just reading your comment, and you’ve put it beautifully. I hated Twitter, mainly because I couldn’t converse. I signed up to Plurk FIRST, so using Twitter was just weird, not to mention annoying when people use it to converse. As you said. I’ve finally got the hang of Twitter, and it’s only because I stop conversing and broadcast.

    Plurk is ten times better. It’s a nicer interface, it’s easier to use and to converse - or broadcast, depending on what you want.

    But Plurk are being a bit slow about things. There are issues it’s having, slow-down time, and as you listed, private plurks, they’re annoying. Karma? Should be updated 48 hourly, not 12 hourly. Plus, if they had a guide to karma, like this: http://plurklayouts.com/the-obvious-secrets-to-plurk-karma/ maybe users would be OK?

    You made a good point about the front page, it’s useless… I just hope they sort themselves out. You ought to post this on Amix’s profile: http://plurk.com/amix

    Olivia Bell’s last blog post..7 Multicoloured Heart Plurk Themes

  16. Bloggeries on January 8th, 2009 | 2:47 pm

    @Lidia - I hear you there. I think the majority of people are on Facebook OR myspace. I’m not on myspace but I am on facebook and a HUGE portion of my offline friends are on it as well. It’s because it’s easy and plays on people’s vanity. They get to put up their fav pictures and comment on each other. Let everyone they “know” know what they are doing. Plurk / Twitter / Most of the other networks are for the more inclined users. I’ve talked about twitter / plurk with most of my offline friends and they all say it’s a massive waste of time, what’s the point, LAME. I think that attitude is lame but that’s neither here nor there.

  17. Former Plurker on January 8th, 2009 | 2:49 pm

    Plurk is better than Twitter for conversations, that’s true. However, I found myself spending way too much time trying to keep up with all the conversations, time that I didn’t have. I had to make a choice, and I chose Twitter.

    Karma is kind of silly, but I enjoyed it at first. It added a game-like aspect that I enjoyed, but I did lose some interest when I got all the emotes I could get. It also made it hard to unfriend people when my friends list got too big to manage. I didn’t want to negatively affect someone else’s karma by unfriending them.

    Would I go back to Plurk if they got rid of karma? I don’t know. I would consider it, I guess.

  18. IThinkNot on January 8th, 2009 | 2:53 pm

    The interface shows what kind of cool things that can be done with web 2.0 technology (side scrolling, drop downs’s to show the replies, etc.). As a web programmer I love seeing what they’ve done. Its cool and clever. But cool and clever doesn’t mean usable.

    The side scrolling can be annoying when using the scroll wheel to try and scroll through the replies. The reply box can collapse if your a sloppy mouser. The overall fonts and stuff are a little on the small side for us running really high res monitors.

  19. Bloggeries on January 8th, 2009 | 2:53 pm

    Hey Former Plurker - Love the username.

    It’s like a double edge sword. To et good “karma” you have to plurk often. However the more you plurk the more responses you’ll have. Since it’s kept in a thread there is no excuse not to reply which just keeps up the cycle of using plurk mindlessly.

    The sad thing is I really love the interface. Oh imagine using Twitter without an email notification of a DM…

    Thanks for your comment.

  20. Renee Lemley on January 8th, 2009 | 2:57 pm

    Plurk isn’t in my social media TRIFECTA ( http://bit.ly/moDQ ) b/c it’s hard enough getting “non-believers” to move into the more “mainstream” platforms.
    I’m an uberenthusiast and I’m willing to dabble in all of the platforms…but plurks “karma” gimmick makes me feel like plurk is more concerned about boosting membership/userbase than it is about providing me with value that is meaningful to me.
    Feels too much like they’ve set up a “rewards program” and not an outpost where integrating with other media is easy and useful….an outpost where the USER defines value on their own, instead of being told how valuable they are with “points.” I’m not the least bit concerned about my number of friends or followers or contacts in my SOCIAL MEDIA TRIFECTA….I’m ONLY concerned about the QUALITY of those connections.

    Don’t mean to plurk-bash, but you did ask.
    :)
    Guess I felt so strongly that I needed to comment TWICE! LOL!

    Renee Lemley’s last blog post..The Perfect Social Media Trifecta: Have you found yours?

  21. Liam Delahunty on January 8th, 2009 | 3:11 pm

    I find Plurk a lot easier as a GUI than Twitter; if you are having conversations as opposed to being preached at then a threaded interface is much easier to understand and trace back existing conversations.

    However, Twitter has the majority of the people I’m interested in listening to / talking with and as such I’m forcing myself to spend a little more time there.

    Liam Delahunty’s last blog post..Analytics Adds Accounts Overview Giving At A Glance Data

  22. Valiant Westland on January 8th, 2009 | 3:17 pm

    Plurk Is Not Pefect, But Great For Threaded Microblogs

    I’ve been using Plurk for the past few months. Unlike Twitter, I like Plurks “threaded” discussions. The comment about marketing the service is valid. I think a lot of organizations/groups would be able to benefit from Plurk as a microblogging tool, if they knew about it.

    There is currently a healthy and growing Second Life Plurk community that is a perfect example of Plurk being used by a common interest group. This group continues to grow, because of active viral marketing by its members.

    You can use http://ping.fm or Twitter or your instant messaging client to update Plurk, so the complaint about about update options is really not valid. Most people don’t need a full-blown desktop application as a social networking client.

  23. Debra Simpson on January 8th, 2009 | 3:23 pm

    Plurk isn’t supported by much. There aren’t any desktop tools, per se as there are with Twitter. I’ve noticed a lot more activity on Twitter personally, than plurk. I love how the conversations are threaded so you can actually interact, with is difficult with Twitter unless you use a desktop application like twhirl or tweetdeck.

    I really want plurk to syndicate the way my blog, Facebook and Twitter interact, making it easier for me to update and create relationships, but it’s sorely lacking in that arena.

    I asked SocialMedia to consider supporting Plurk, making it more convenient to use on a single location, but they said the can’t support every social network out there.

    For the moment I’m still Plurking, but am finding myself drifting away too.

    Debra Simpson’s last blog post..Twitter Updates for 2009-01-07

  24. Richard Dewick - makakman on January 8th, 2009 | 3:25 pm

    I use twitter just as much as plurk but keep the serious stuff/work-related to twitter as that’s where the people are at. Twitter having the head start of being younger definitely means it’s got the better PR and it’s the only one I hear mentioned in none industry circles. Karma sucks, something most of us agree on!

    Richard Dewick - makakman’s last blog post..MailChimp Review: Online HTML Email Marketing

  25. tomiwk on January 8th, 2009 | 3:33 pm

    As I see it, it’s a combination of lack of promotion, and an inadequate use of the karma feature. The interface is a little confusing in the beginning, but soon you get used to it, and even get to enjoy it.

    The way karma is achieved right now, almost seems to punish users for having a life, if you get some beers, you lose karma, weekend vacation? you lose a lt of karma. and if you do not have an interesting life, what can you plurk about? karma itself?

    I even have some people on my timeline who share the account, just to keep the karma up, this leads to some awful plurks (taking care of karma for my friend… my bro’s karma is rising, etc.), and that takes away a lot of the fun you can have on Plurk…

    So, basically I think, get rid of karma altogehter, make the karma drop a lot slower… the way it is right now, it makes a big quantity of low quality plurks…

  26. Christopher Humphries on January 8th, 2009 | 3:50 pm

    There isn’t a client for using it like Twitterrific.

    That was the problem with Pownce also.

    Mobile apps would be nice to have too. The whole karma thing is just a bad idea. People shouldn’t feel like they have to maintain their profile to keep up karma, that isn’t why people joined. People joined to communicate with other people and that is the sole reason.

    Remove everything from Plurk that takes away from this.
    Add things that enable this on different platforms.

  27. IThinkNot on January 8th, 2009 | 4:13 pm

    yea, but its just a silly ranking. If you go down who cares. Its not something to obsess over.

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  29. Laurel Plum on January 8th, 2009 | 7:37 pm

    I love everything about plurk except the Karma. Which I really dispise!
    My holiday season starts just before Halloween and does not end until about the 3rd of the new year. It seems like I finally hit Nirvana just at the front end of my holiday season. Prior to that I was genuinely enjoying conversations, but over the past three months, I have been very guilty of doing stop in plurks when I had nothing to say nor time to really respond just for the sake of trying to keep Nirvana since it took so long to achieve. It would have been much better for everyone if I could have just silently dropped out and resurfaced from time to time as it was really feasible.

    And I hate that everyone’s friends choose to ignore instead of just dropping just for the sake of Karma, too. There is nothing wrong with checking someone out and trying to get to know them better only to decide you do not mesh later.

    Oh and the that it takes a long time to make a full point but no time at all to lose it.

    There are just too many ‘punishment’ factors to Karma. I think it was meant as a way of rewarding faithful users, but has backfired in too many cases.

    Over the holidays, I liked plurk less and less. I am hoping to get back in the swing of it, and am hanging in there. But If I had not been so much in love with it before, I would have easily been one of the ones that dropped out.

    I also think once some people realize that plurks show up in google, they change the way they talk and start censoring themselves more. I have noticed more broadcasting and less conversation from many lately.

    P.S. I do wish plurk had apps available similar to Tweetdeck just to be able to sort out plurk topics and contacts but that is just a wish, not an explanation for Plurk’s recent downturn. — And sorry this response was so long.

    Laurel Plum’s last blog post..New Year Fresh Start - Moving On From Goals

  30. Ben Barden - Blog Tips on January 8th, 2009 | 9:08 pm

    I just hit nirvana before I stopped using Plurk. To coin a phrase - karma is a bitch!

    How can Plurk penalise people for not Plurking but also penalise them for posting too much? I didn’t even realise how pathetic this sounds until I wrote it out. Basically, with karma they’re trying to control when you Plurk and how much you Plurk. Well guess what. People like to do it as much or as little as they like.

    It is unfortunate, because there was a time I LOVED Plurk.

    The argument about Twitter’s interface being simpler is only half the story. Twitter just doesn’t seem to be adding new features. This is extremely frustrating, sometimes even the simplest interface would benefit from a few tweaks. Frankly, the web interface sucks big time, why do you think so many people use the third party apps for Twitter? Sure, they’re good, but I’m genuinely amazed Twitter took off as much as it did when it’s hopeless trying to use the web interface if you have more than a few chatty followers.

    I have recently discovered TweetDeck, and it rocks, but the API limit sucks and appears to affect all of the Twitter apps too. Had the same issue with Twhirl. So Twitter’s problems are far from over.

    If Plurk got rid of karma and sent emails when private Plurks go out, I’d consider returning - but the problem is that too many people are too used to Twitter now. Plurk had its chance when Twitter had big problems, and they should’ve done more to take advantage of it. I’d guess that most people just don’t have time to keep up with both Twitter and Plurk. I know I don’t, and I moved to Twitter because so many more people use it.

    Ben Barden - Blog Tips’s last blog post..10 posts you shouldn’t write

  31. Teeg on January 8th, 2009 | 11:16 pm

    I think you hit on two very important keys in your list. 3 - Lack of promotion and 5 - No private notification are two of the biggest drawbacks Plurk has.

    Plurk can be used for business, the Plurkshops and similar group conversations and the few social media conventions that have been Plurked have shown that. It has a ton of potential. The problem is, Plurk isn’t doing anything to promote itself. The last I heard they were looking at the people who had applied for the evangelist position, but no one I’ve talked to has heard back after applying.

    I know I don’t push Plurk nearly as much as I used to. I still enjoy Plurking, and love the fact that I can read whole conversations in a thread, but it’s getting harder to justify to someone new to social media why they need to add Plurk to their list of new sites to join.

    As far as karma goes, I think it’s a double-edged sword. Karma for starting out still seems like a neat idea to me, it’s part of what helps keep Plurk relatively spam/broadcast free. On the other hand, karma needs a drastic overhaul, and I would end it no higher than 50. The .05 or .01 karma increases are ridiculous. If you’re at that point, you’ve shown that you know how to participate and that you’re not a spammer. What else do we need it for?

    Teeg’s last blog post..The Simplest Way To Get Accepted As A friend On Facebook

  32. Dulcita Love on January 8th, 2009 | 11:23 pm

    I’ve recently started sending status updates to Twitter and Facebook via SMS texting. Would love to do the same with Plurk. I’ve noticed that Plurk does not seem to surface as high or as quickly on Google compared to other Social Media sites. Dulcita Love

  33. Eingang on January 9th, 2009 | 5:59 am

    People have already mentioned several important things about why Plurk is not that popular. The following, however, have not been mentioned:

    1) Using Plurk as a Development Environment
    How many times has Plurk been broken because @amix has been playing around on the live version of Plurk instead of using a development site and having it tested? I’m all in favour of improvements and continuous development, but that’s a very sloppy development practice and it causes Plurk to break, or people’s timelines not to update. I know i’ve thought many times “Gee! Plurk has been quiet for the last hour?” only to refresh the page and discover a load of new responses plus some new interface element. Not all of those changes have been good either. Anyone remember when sound notifications were suddenly foisted on everyone (enabled by default) and how the icon changed multiple times as did its location?

    Using the live system for development and testing disturbs the people who actually use the system and makes you look amateurish. Get a development environment for testing and invite people to be beta testers before foisting changes in real-time on everyone else.

    2) Search and Find
    A recent improvement has been made in people searching. I haven’t really given that a go, but that’s not a big concern of mine. What is a big concern is that I can’t use search to find stuff I know I’ve written myself. While I like the timeline on a daily basis, if you need to go back more than a few days, it’s basically useless. Then you need to use the search. Often, even if I can quote verbatim an entire sentence I know appears in a conversation, the search will not turn it up. What exactly it is or isn’t doing, I haven’t figured out.

    Twitter’s search may be simplistic but it works and it can be easily refreshed with new results. That enables people to write applications to automatically notify people when keywords are used or when people talk about them or any number of things. At a bare minimum, it certainly makes it easier to find something you’ve said!

    So basic functional keyword searching that works is a bare essential.
    Given the time-organized nature of Plurk, it would also be nice to get overviews by day, week, month, or custom-defined timespans on something other than the visual timeline.

    3) API Love?
    Sites like Last.fm and Twitter have documented and made public APIs so people can build tools. In the case of Twitter, that’s had some problems, especially with so much of it needing people’s authentication details, but the basic idea is sound. If we have public APIs, we will build tools. The APIs need to be documented and they need to be stable. That doesn’t mean they can’t change, but changes should be done in large, well-documented batches that preferably don’t break any tools previously developed.

    This may already exist, but it’s not as easy to find or as well-known as those other sites. If that’s the case, then better advertising of those features is needed.

    I know I sound negative, but I love the threaded nature of Plurk and its quirky interface has grown on me since I started last June. I’d like to see it survive.

    Eingang’s last blog post..7 Degrees of Ein (That You Probably Never Knew)

  34. Bloggeries on January 9th, 2009 | 9:34 am

    @Eingang Great thoughts. I love Plurk as well hence I have this blog and try and raise some questions. I just hope the admins actually read this thread.

    http://www.plurk.com/p/cif6z

    I posted on that Plurk page and Amix replied. He said they are growing by leaps and bounds… I know the metrics I used are somewhat flaky but it’s the best worst tool you can use IMO. (Compete.com etc…)

    @Teeg yes maybe if the karma didn’t go down at all. It’s like you earned this spot. Just make it harder to climb in first place?

    @Ben I am different as I mainly use the web. That said I”m using Tweetie on my ipod for twitter and I love it. I think if Plurk would let people build tools that would be positive. You are right most people don’t check on the web. I’ve noticed you came back to Twitter as well. Sadly most people have.

    @Laurel - I’ve been saying that forever regarding the punishments. If I “get an offline life” and come back to Plurk… First thing I see is a big DOWN ARROW a negative response. Is that what the dev team wants casual users to constantly see. It just doesn’t make sense. If somene comes back froma longer absent it should be positive. YOU ARE GLAD THEY ARE BACK. I mean it’s not like there is not lots of selection out there…

    Thanks for comments everyone. I do wish I had highlighted some of the serious PROS of using Plurk, threaded conversations, ability to mass message privately, private threaded conversations and more.

  35. IThinkNot on January 9th, 2009 | 10:07 am

    @Eingang you make great points!!!

    You know, in World of Warcraft, you are REWARDED with taking breaks. That community doesn’t want you on 24/7. Its bad for you and its bad for server resources. Karma should not go down for being absent. Now I’m all up with it going down if you over post “Good Morning” to every good morning thread in your stream or if your posts are all emoticons. Some simple tests could be applied to say are these meaningful posts and award karma for those and take away for the stupid stuff. Profile updates shouldn’t affect karma. Having a full profile should give you a base boost. And having it tied to friends/followers isn’t a bad idea. So it sounds like we just a few minor tweeks to make karma work for most people.

  36. Walkinggeek on January 9th, 2009 | 11:38 am

    Agree w/ Eingang.

    - API
    - Realtime Search
    - Stability

  37. Ben Barden - Blog Tips on January 10th, 2009 | 5:52 am

    @Bloggeries - hope it’s OK to post this link - I have a blog post that looks at 10 reasons why Plurk is better than Twitter: http://www.toptenblogtips.com/10-reasons-why-plurk-is-better-than-twitter/

    Linked from the comments you’ll see a follow-up post where I look at why Twitter is better than Plurk. I believe TweetDeck is an additional reason for the list, but I wasn’t using it when I wrote that post. Still, you might find the post interesting.

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  39. lizit on January 13th, 2009 | 1:53 pm

    I’m a Plurk devotee.

    It is simple and intuitive.

    It offers threaded conversations.

    I meet people from all over the globe.

    Yes it has its faults and its off days, but don’t we all.

    Twitter on the other hand is confusing, impossible to follow a thread, impossible to find anything, generally a nightmare. Why it is so popular - I don’t get it!

  40. Loan Time on January 21st, 2009 | 4:53 am

    I think it won’t grow because it’s obviously a direct competitor to twitter, and if you leave twitter you have to build up all your contacts again from scratch. If it was easy to switch, more people would join. Don’t get too hopeful though, twitter is a monster that eats people. Seriously!

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  41. Rikin on February 9th, 2009 | 11:04 am

    I’m a big social media guy and use it for a living but never really have grasped the inherent value of using Plurk. What does it improve upon that others don’t?

    At the end of the day I’m sure there are many outliers in why some social networks take off and others don’t. Malcolm Gladwell will have to investigate this one too.

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  42. Joel on March 19th, 2009 | 11:46 am

    I think what it comes down to is a feeling of “oversocialization”. I love social networks and what they can do for fostering community between personal sites, business sites, blogs etc. etc. etc., but even I got sick of over-extension recently and shut down my Myspace account. I moved completely to Facebook, and only reluctantly joined Twitter. Now, I’m in love with Twitter, but mostly because it’s easy to integrate with Facebook. You can control your updates from there and just check on threads and conversations a few times a day with Facebook.

    New sites (social networking sites that is) would be wise to use the 800lb. gorilla in the room and integrate with Facebook. Even though it may not last forever, it’s going great now. Use it as the springboard for your site to blossom.

  43. Thirteen on March 19th, 2009 | 11:54 am

    Honestly I followed a link here from twitter (bloggeries) and wondered what Plurk was. I still don’t fully know other than something like Twitter but better in some ways and worse in others. Here at Plurkable I do not see a link to Plurk. I looked and I looked but did not easily find. Most poeple would just move on, but I decided to at least post, then I will google plurk to find it. Poor linking and advertising may be what is doing plurk in.

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  44. Jelly on March 20th, 2009 | 1:38 am

    I haven’t actually used Plurk, so this was definately an interesting read for me! I followed here through a link from Twitter, and am keen to see how it differs!

    Thanks for the interesting introduction, I am off to check it out for myself :-)
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  56. Step Stool on October 22nd, 2009 | 3:05 pm

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  58. Crown Multimedia Agency on December 2nd, 2009 | 6:03 pm

    From an outsider’s standpoint, it is not blatantly obvious what Plurk is all about at first glance. i had to read a few comments to catch the drift. I think if you include a page that explains the concept of Plurk, then your numbers may begin to ascend once again. Just my two cents…thanks.

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  59. Carol Ford on January 22nd, 2010 | 5:45 pm

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  60. tech and gadget updates on January 22nd, 2010 | 8:12 pm

    At first glance, the homepage will give you the feeling of confusion. Not much available info to know what you are getting into. Inner pages looks like a cluttered Friendster pages but overall the idea is cool, although Plurke needs to put on more elbow grease if it wants to distinguish itself from the rest of the sociall media sites.

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  62. Arwym on February 13th, 2010 | 11:47 am

    Well…

    Perhaps it’s because I have been on Plurk for less than a day, but I do not find “karma” to be an annoyance, at least for the moment. I’d like to be able to use those neat features that are only available to users with higher “karma”, but I do not complain, since the point of using Plurk, in my opinion, is to have “micro conversations.”

    I tend to like receiving replies on Twitter, but Twitter isn’t as good for having actual conversations. So I began to search for a micro-forum platform, and I stumbled upon Plurk. I’ve found it to be amazing, cute, and innovative. The idea of threading related Plurks is perfect for me. I love feedback. There is Tweetboard for Twitter, but I still prefer Plurk.

    The advantage of Twitter is its popularity in the Western hemisphere, and as a consequence, the great amount of support it gets: an infinity of tools, a seemingly endless amount of users, which makes it easier to find the whoever you’re looking for or meet new people, support from other Web 2.0 services and tools, etc.

    It seems to me that Plurk is much more popular in Asian countries. And it does have that cute feel that I tend to associate with the Asian pop culture, and that I like.

    I don’t want the interface to look more like Twitter’s, because that is one of the aspects that make Plurk different, and it also supports its purpose. I like to navigate with my keyboard rather than with my mouse sometimes. It is also fun, to an extent. I really like the way it is, though I do believe it can be improved, as you say.

    Plurk needs improvement, yes. And it also needs more promotion in this part of the world. I’m trying to spread the word a bit here on Puerto Rico. I study Web Technologies with a focus on Web 2.0, and I find the idea of Plurk just that interesting, that I will be taking a closer look within the next few months. :)

    Now, this is just what I’ve perceived after only a few hours of having joined, but I hope not to be disappointed in the future. After all, Plurk is still pretty new (in comparison to other places), so many things could still happen…

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  65. PC Monitors on March 8th, 2010 | 1:43 pm

    Social networks like Facebook and Twitter are simply more widely used and known than Plurk. It is simply a case of competition and ineffective (or insufficient) advertising that is preventing Plurk from the growth it might deserve.

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